Lyin' sacks o chit!
I have to admit that I am thoroughly disgusted with eMu's latest blatant lying to cover their ass, especially Cathy's boldface lie about no redownloads not being a change of policy.
Here's a thread beachdog 67 posted about a year and a half ago:
I know I have a copy of the old terms somewhere, but I decided to try the Wayback machine which got me the following result:
Here's a thread beachdog 67 posted about a year and a half ago:
OK. So while everybody's been pitching hissy fits about how there is nothing worth downloading in the massive back catalogs of Columbia, RCA, Bluebird, etc., etc., and having a cow about how the almost-free ride is ending, THIS little goodie seems to have slipped into the TOS:
6.13 You may re-download each of your previously purchased tracks up to a maximum of four (4) re-downloads per track for any reason at no additional charge; thereafter, you will be required to re-purchase the track.
Once again, taken on it's own, this is arguably not unreasonable (I don't know where else one can find unlimited redownloads).
But what fries me is the sly little subway reacharound. Rather than come upfront and make the case for the change, let's see if we can't slip it in while attention is focused on something else. It's the fricking Dick Chaney School of Management.
Just about the time I'm calmed down and ready to move into a more reasonable reaction of "well, I have concerns, but let's see how it goes" you guys sling another sleezo move out there. Dog mag it! You don't make it easy to love ya.
Woof!
//NOTE: Credit to xtrev for spotting the poop pile.
I know I have a copy of the old terms somewhere, but I decided to try the Wayback machine which got me the following result:
Robots.txt Query Exclusion.
We're sorry, access to http://www.emusic.com/legal/terms.html has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt.
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Actually, I remember this change, but between regular backups and getting as used as anyone can to albums coming and going the 4 d/l limit seemed reasonable. Especially compared to the new no redownloads unless your computer explodes.
Last weekend I tried downloading the new Deerhunter album, but got error messages both times I tried. When I went back to get it yesterday, it had been pulled. It remains to be seen if they give me credit for it.
Someone was keeping old TOS. Might be jellwood. I know I've saved some of the TOS, but I'm not seeing them in any of the likely places.
Here's a US one from last year - should have been updated in Nov/Dec if they stuck to their recent timetable...
http://www.emusers.net/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=54&page=1#Item_1
that will be the first big issue - when they raise the sound quality of the recordings as a "service enhancement" - you'll be able to go back and re-dl at the remarkable rate of "buy it again, sucker."
by the by, when you re-dl your entire catalog you quickly realize a significant number of your stock is simply unavailable. in the 30+% range. it always struck me as odd a certain set of emu apologists on the boards - claiming to be members for eternity - had catalogs that were fresh, minty and re-dlable in the 90+% range - as if they had just been cobbled together in the last 3 months! those of you fond of statistics can draw your own conclusion. certainly it doesn't make their arguments invalid in the whole but it does raise the bigger issue of manipulation.
now i ask you, is emu and the cathyhn regime capable of such tactics??? yawn...i will now return to re-watching "michael clayton".
The lying/dishonesty was why I quit during the Sony drop. The lack of integrity.
I just now found something that takes some of the sting away, in a perverse way.
Recently I considered signing up again with my old account, under a previous nick. I looked at my downloads for that account--the page is still there--and I realized that about half of everything I ever got here is gone. I wouldn't have been able to download it again anyway.
/edit: had applied to normal old farts
And shame on the rest of you for feeling that the face of eMusic should act professionally around customers that have been cheated, lied to, ignored, and otherwise told to fuck off. She's merely a VP, after all.
Also the janitor.