I don't hate the Dead, I'm just not interested. Don't use the word "awesome" when you try to convince me otherwise.
>>"I never get upset when people don't like my music either."
I'm the same way, but I find people in general are extremely sensitive about any kind of criticism or even a simple lack of enthusiasm for their favourite band. I think people expect me to validate their taste in music. To bad for them, I don't like much in terms of classic/modern rock and seems to be all anybody listens to.
thom, a thousand apologies for my mistake, especially since you view the comment as juvenile. I thought it very amusing, a bit of innocent fun in what was otherwise a very nasty atmosphere. "Ick" to me says "I think you really have crappy taste in music you know, but that's o.k., and I don't think you're sub-human because of it". Many of the other comments made about music in those threads were quite foul. It was an attack on one's taste, not one's person, and too often on the board the one implied the other. A lighthearted touch in the midst of heavy-handed assault and counter-assault I thought. My hat is off to whomever did post it, it was just what that thread needed, IMHO, and just the attitude I would always like to see when discussing matters of taste. EDIT: repetitious, poorly worded, and a bit ick.
hate "Wow, Man, let's share" hippies, because what they really mean is "let me have some of yours, man"
That's pretty much a characteristic of adolescent and post-adolescent friendship groups anyway. They tend to grow out of it when they find out that it's their own goods they're distributing, rather than Mum and Dad's. There are always going to be some dedicated freeloaders around, but a lot of it's just down to people noticing at different times.
I could totally be wrong about the "ick" comment, but it came across to me as a random passerby wanting to interject that someone had bad musical taste and shouldn't be listened to. It's also one of the only comments that "confirms" a certain someone's paranoia that we all hate him for his musical taste. In a different setting it might not have bothered me so much.
But back to the topic at hand - The Dead suck and Dirty Hippies have ruined our country...
Which do you dislike more, the Dead or Deadheads? I I think dislike for your stereotypical deadhead often makes people dislike the dead more than they would otherwise. It's like Apple fanboyz. They are so insufferable they make people who don't like macs dislike them even more. (This from a Mac user whose hard drive contains 76g of Dead shows).
Uh-oh, now I'm going to have to be totally honest. I have very little knowledge of The Dead. But they're kind of like Rush to me - huge devoted following that is easy to make fun of. You could send me 20 live shows of The Dead and I could fall in love with each and everyone, but it wouldn't get me to stop teasing Deadheads. Just too much fun...
And we'll have to steer clear of any Mac discussions around here - then you'll probably see me actually get angry.
"I like the Grateful Dead. Always have, always will."
Come on, this is supposed to be Fight Club, why so vanilla?
Deadheads do present too easy a target, stereotypically speaking. I mean, how are you supposed to let all that tie-dye go?
As to the hippie issue, let's not forget the big 40th anniversary coming next week - all the truly delightful, despicable, and down right hilarious things about hippies are all there in the Woodstock movie. I was 15 and almost went. Saw the movie the next spring and was sorry to have missed the music, but not the mud, dysentery, and bad brown acid.
Well done....my GD dir is only 41GB, all mp3 though. I haven't moved my CD's to digital yet, maybe three feet of CD's in sleeves? Then there are the cassettes.....!
Once upon a time there was indie porn, a field of reflection and action where libertarian forms of exploration led to an extreme deconstruction of the mysoginist and heterocentric violence of commercial pornography, substituting it with a playful, independent, feminist and queer pornography, characterized by fluctuating and self-represented bodies. We once engaged in digital forms of experimentation with online texts, where bodies became a battlefield and the forms of self-representation shifted the ethics and esthetics of Do It Yourself to the digital realm. Today all this has given way to the emergence of markets of social networks which sell porntainment products built around identity niches, aimed at a fifteen-second masturbation, depriving indie porn of its original subversive and experimental meaning.
Looks like Sonification already got there. (If you *really*want the source, Google is your friend)
Plong42 - favorite show or era? I'm primarily focused on the decade from 1968 to 1977, favorite year 1977, with '72 and '69 close behind. First live show recording still my favorite - Barton Hall 050877. Do you prefer soundboards or auds? Do you have both sbd and aud recordings of your favorite shows (that really says a lot about how rabid a collector you are). Favorite show provider (I'm a huge fan of Charlie Miller's transfers myself) And of course, do you find yourself getting the urge to wear tie-dye as you listen? I know I sure do. You know, I could talk exactly the same way about Miles Davis -first or second quintet, acoustic or electric, LIve/Evil vs. the Complete Cellar Door sessions - and I don't think anyone would get upset. Bored, maybe, but not upset. But I'll bet that first paragraph blew some gaskets.
Wow, Tim, had to read that 3 times to understand it. Basically, tho, ePorn got the equivalent of being Sony-ied just like eMusic, right? EDIT: I was so focused on understanding the quote that I missed your note at the bottom. So I did understand it right. So I guess the question now is, did all the ePorn folks go to AmiePorn?
Early rather than later, usually pre-1977. The space jams get a bit out of hand in the later material, but that doesn't mean I won't listen to it. I like the 70-71 shows, Port Chester, Feb of 1971, and the April Fillmore shows are standouts. Although I have to admit, I love any show with Donna Jean.
I have a few tapes (maybe CDR's?) of Jerry solo with John Kahn, great great stuff there.
i always reached for Garcia's provocatively titled first solo album "Garcia" when the the evolution of a well heeled buzz needed some background; to me it captured all of his strengths in 2 acts:
the first side rolled like day glo tumblweed down the main street of an of an old west sepia tone, the second side immediately grabbed the over fed head, raced its engines then brought it down softly on turning wheels.
don't play it much anymore; still pull out the "Old And In The Way" album every once in a while.
Now Hot Tuna I like. Saw their first NYC show at the Fillmore East, just Jack and Jorma, but not too many people knew who they (actually) were yet, so we had bought nosebleed seats but attendance was sparse so everyone got to move down to the first balcony section. Awesome show.
Deadhead protocol would require you to use the words "man" and "awesome' somewhere in the declaration. And more adjectives with CAPITAL LETTERS. More profanity too. How's this: The Dead are AWESOME man, I fucking LOVE them! Always have, always will, you STUPID BRAIN-DEAD ASSHOLE!
You were looking for a fracas, you went for the wrong target - Deadheads won't fight back. Here's how to do it :
Johnny Cash : life-long juvenile delinquent with one of the most boring voices in rock and roll. And he wants you to hear all the words, however banal, however bathetic. Lowest moment? Getting down with the crims in St. Quentin - Hey, fellas, I'm a jail-bird too. Second lowest? - that shoddy dirge about how he's done so much harm and now he's all alone with nothing but millions of dollars to show for a lifetime of behaving like a schmuck.
Drive-by-Truckers : The Eagles without they can hit the notes.
The Beatles : Everything they didn't steal was down to George Martin. John Lennon's music yet another of those interminably extended exercises in self-pity that passes for art in rock n roll circles. And that drummer ... please! McCartney occasionally saved them from nullity, but leaving them to make his own music was the best move he ever made.
The Blues : songs about shooting women or sticking knives in them, usually while drunk. But, hey, man, it's authentic!
Method Posting is dangerous. I let myself fall way too far into character. This morning I still feel like I climbed down the evolutionary ladder a couple of rungs.
> "Old And In The Way" album every once in a while.
Anything from OaitW is OK with me. I recently picked up a used copy of Garcia live at Kean College February 28, 1980 (title: After Midnight). Quite an enjoyable set of music. This thread reminded me that I have not listened to the Filmore 1969 set in a while, so I grabbed those CD's for today's workday.
I also have the 2 Grateful Dead albums mentioned the most here: American Beauty & Workingman's Dead, probably purchased during a fit of nostalgia left over when I ran with my brother for a while and he ran with some bikers.....I moved away, went to college, didn't listen to the Dead unless it came on the radio.
Then I started a job and one guy there was a motorocyle enthusiast. Hubby and I went to a few of this guy's parties. Well, I was left alone in front of a CD player at one of these shindigs which involved burning dried-out Christmas trees in a big bonfire and watching it from the roof....very fun...
Can't leave me alone in front of a CD player with lots of disks, pre-MP3, without me playing DJ!
I put on "Friend of the Devil" and in marched the matriarch of the enthusiasts. Apparently, I had played it WAY too soon in the evening's progression of festivities.
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And I'm definitely not the one who said "ick." I cringed at that response knowing full well it was juvenile.
>>"I never get upset when people don't like my music either."
I'm the same way, but I find people in general are extremely sensitive about any kind of criticism or even a simple lack of enthusiasm for their favourite band. I think people expect me to validate their taste in music. To bad for them, I don't like much in terms of classic/modern rock and seems to be all anybody listens to.
was otherwise a very nasty atmosphere. "Ick" to me says "I think you really have crappy taste in music you know, but that's o.k., and I don't think you're sub-human because of it". Many of the other comments made about music in those threads were quite foul.
It was an attack on one's taste, not one's person, and too often on the board the one implied the other. A lighthearted touch in the midst of heavy-handed assault and counter-assault I thought. My hat is off to whomever did post it, it was just what that thread needed,
IMHO, and just the attitude I would always like to see when discussing matters of taste.
EDIT: repetitious, poorly worded, and a bit ick.
That's pretty much a characteristic of adolescent and post-adolescent friendship groups anyway. They tend to grow out of it when they find out that it's their own goods they're distributing, rather than Mum and Dad's. There are always going to be some dedicated freeloaders around, but a lot of it's just down to people noticing at different times.
And the Dead have a song about it.
Rule #34. So yes, there is.
But back to the topic at hand - The Dead suck and Dirty Hippies have ruined our country...
(This from a Mac user whose hard drive contains 76g of Dead shows).
And we'll have to steer clear of any Mac discussions around here - then you'll probably see me actually get angry.
Tempting, tempting...this is the Fight Club forum after all.
Come on, this is supposed to be Fight Club, why so vanilla?
Deadheads do present too easy a target, stereotypically speaking. I mean, how are you supposed to let all that tie-dye go?
As to the hippie issue, let's not forget the big 40th anniversary coming next week - all the truly delightful, despicable, and down right hilarious things about hippies are all there in the Woodstock movie. I was 15 and almost went. Saw the movie the next spring and was sorry to have missed the music, but not the mud, dysentery, and bad brown acid.
Well done....my GD dir is only 41GB, all mp3 though. I haven't moved my CD's to digital yet, maybe three feet of CD's in sleeves? Then there are the cassettes.....!
Looks like Sonification already got there. (If you *really*want the source, Google is your friend)
And of course, do you find yourself getting the urge to wear tie-dye as you listen? I know I sure do.
You know, I could talk exactly the same way about Miles Davis -first or second quintet, acoustic or electric, LIve/Evil vs. the Complete Cellar Door sessions - and I don't think anyone would get upset. Bored, maybe, but not upset. But I'll bet that first paragraph blew some gaskets.
EDIT: I was so focused on understanding the quote that I missed your note at the bottom. So I did understand it right. So I guess the question now is,
did all the ePorn folks go to AmiePorn?
Early rather than later, usually pre-1977. The space jams get a bit out of hand in the later material, but that doesn't mean I won't listen to it. I like the 70-71 shows, Port Chester, Feb of 1971, and the April Fillmore shows are standouts. Although I have to admit, I love any show with Donna Jean.
I have a few tapes (maybe CDR's?) of Jerry solo with John Kahn, great great stuff there.
I am not emotionally ready to see Crimson Razorback porn. Really.
*shudder*
Craig
the first side rolled like day glo tumblweed down the main street of an of an old west sepia tone, the second side immediately grabbed the over fed head, raced its engines then brought it down softly on turning wheels.
don't play it much anymore; still pull out the "Old And In The Way" album every once in a while.
I'm really more of a Hot Tuna man.
OK, I'll rephrase it. (Just for fun ...)
I like the Grateful Dead. Always have, always will, asshole!
How's this:
The Dead are AWESOME man, I fucking LOVE them! Always have, always will, you STUPID BRAIN-DEAD ASSHOLE!
Johnny Cash : life-long juvenile delinquent with one of the most boring voices in rock and roll. And he wants you to hear all the words, however banal, however bathetic. Lowest moment? Getting down with the crims in St. Quentin - Hey, fellas, I'm a jail-bird too. Second lowest? - that shoddy dirge about how he's done so much harm and now he's all alone with nothing but millions of dollars to show for a lifetime of behaving like a schmuck.
Drive-by-Truckers : The Eagles without they can hit the notes.
The Beatles : Everything they didn't steal was down to George Martin. John Lennon's music yet another of those interminably extended exercises in self-pity that passes for art in rock n roll circles. And that drummer ... please! McCartney occasionally saved them from nullity, but leaving them to make his own music was the best move he ever made.
The Blues : songs about shooting women or sticking knives in them, usually while drunk. But, hey, man, it's authentic!
That's the way to do it.
Anything from OaitW is OK with me. I recently picked up a used copy of Garcia live at Kean College February 28, 1980 (title: After Midnight). Quite an enjoyable set of music. This thread reminded me that I have not listened to the Filmore 1969 set in a while, so I grabbed those CD's for today's workday.
> I'm really more of a Hot Tuna man.
Very respectable....
Then I started a job and one guy there was a motorocyle enthusiast. Hubby and I went to a few of this guy's parties. Well, I was left alone in front of a CD player at one of these shindigs which involved burning dried-out Christmas trees in a big bonfire and watching it from the roof....very fun...
Can't leave me alone in front of a CD player with lots of disks, pre-MP3, without me playing DJ!
I put on "Friend of the Devil" and in marched the matriarch of the enthusiasts. Apparently, I had played it WAY too soon in the evening's progression of festivities.