Pitchfork Top 200 Albums of 2000

thomnottomthomnottom
edited October 2009 in Fight Club
Figured we should have a thread just for arguing about this list :P

I'm working on posting the entire thing shortly, in the meantime my first issues are no Yo La Tengo, Black Keys, St. Vincent, Santogold, or Sloan... seriously?
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  • thomnottomthomnottom
    200. Jay Reatard - Blood Visions
    199. Deerhoof - Apple O'
    198. Boris - Akuma No Uta
    197. Yeasayer - All Hour Cymbals
    196. William Basinski - The Disentegration Loops
    195. Bonnie "Prince" Billy - The Letting Go
    194. Pulp - We Love Life
    193. Devendra Banhart - Rejoicing in the Hands
    192. Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock & Roll
    191. Air - Talkie Walkie
    190. Elliott Smith - Figure 8
    189. Jamie Lidell - Multiply
    188. M83 - Dead Cities, Red Seas & Lost Ghosts
    187. Stars of the Lid - The Tired Sounds of Stars of the Lid
    186. The Thermals - The Body, the Blood, the Machine
    185. Scarface - The Fix
    184. Vitalic - OK Cowboy
    183. Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
    182. Max Tundra - Mastered by Guy at the Exchange
    181. Andrew Bird - Andrew Bird & the Mysterious Production of Eggs
    180. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - Abattoir Blues/Lyre of Orpheus
    179. Camera Obscura - Let's Get Out of This Country
    178. Lil Wayne - Tha Carter II
    177. Broadcast - The Noise Made By People
    176. The Mountain Goats - Tallahassee
    175. Various Artists - Total 3
    174. Okkervil River - Black Sheep Boy
    173. Herbert - Bodily Functions
    172. Constantines - Shine a Light
    171. The Go! Team - Thunder, Lightning, Strike
    170. Bright Eyes - Fevers and Mirrors
    169. Common - Like Water for Chocolate
    168. Califone - Roots and Crowns
    167. Annie - Anniemal
    166. Jim O'Rourke - Insignificance
    165. Ricardo Villalobos - Alcachofa
    164. Les Savy Fav - Rome (Written Upside Down) EP
    163. DJ /rupture - Uproot
    162. Wu-Tang Clan - The W
    161. Air France - No Way Down
    160. Deerhunter - Cryptograms
    159. Girl Talk - Night Ripper
    158. Destroyer - Destroyer's Rubies
    157. Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow
    156. Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
    155. Clipse - Lord Willin'
    154. Ghostface Killah - The Pretty Toney Album
    153. Jens Lekman - Night Falls Over Kortedala
    152. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
    151. The Walkmen - Bows and Arrows
  • thomnottomthomnottom
    150. The New Pornographers - Twin Cinema
    149. Tough Alliance - A New Chance
    148. Erlend
  • thomnottomthomnottom
    100. ...And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead - Source Tags & Codes
    99. Lil Wayne Da Drought 3
    98. Cat Power - You Are Free
    97. The Dismemberment Plan - Change
    96. Spoon - Girls Can Tell
    95. Grizzly Bear - Yellow House
    94. Mclusky - Mclusky Do Dallas
    93. 2 Many DJs - As Heard on Radio Soulwax, Pt. 2
    92. Björk - Vespertine
    91. The New Pornographers - Mass Romantic
    90. Jay-Z - The Black Album
    89. Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary
    88. The Wrens - The Meadowlands
    87. Kanye West - Graduation
    86. Belle and Sebastian - The Life Pursuit
    85. Gas - Pop
    84. Super Furry Animals - Rings Around the World
    83. Joanna Newsom - Ys
    82. Beck - Sea Change
    81. Hot Chip - The Warning
    80. The Clientele - Suburban Light
    79. Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds
    78. No Age - Nouns
    77. Missy Elliott - Miss E: So Addictive
    76. Junior Boys - Last Exit
    75. Ghostface Killah - Fishscale
    74. The White Stripes - Elephant
    73. The Microphones - The Glow, Pt. 2
    72. Sleater-Kinney - One Beat
    71. Portishead - Third
    70. Sufjan Stevens - Greetings From Michigan: The Great Lakes State
    69. Liars - Drum's Not Dead
    68. Robyn - Robyn
    67. The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
    66. J Dilla - Donuts
    65. Godpseed You Black Emperor! - Lift Your Skinny Fists like Antennas to Heaven
    64. The Hold Steady - Boys and Girls in America
    63. Of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer?
    62. Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner
    61. Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours
    60. Exploding Hearts - Guitar Romantic
    59. Ted Leo and the Pharmacists - Hearts of Oak
    58. The Field - From Here We Go Sublime
    57. The Rapture - Echoes
    56. Dirty Projectors - Bitte Orca
    55. Animal Collective - Feels
    54. M.I.A. - Arular
    53. Clinic - Internal Wrangler
    52. Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
    51. Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
  • amclark2amclark2
    my first issues are no Yo La Tengo

    no. 37, Yo La Tengo, and then nothing turned itself inside out; if you're going to fight, at least fight fair.

    Personally I like the list, feel no strong sense of disagreement, but I do wish there were more things on there that I hadn't heard; more to explore.
  • cafreemacafreema
    I also can't really build up a good head of steam to argue with the list, although I am shocked that Santogold isn't on there somewhere.

    I'm certainly enjoying listening to my lala downloads though!

    Craig
  • mommiomommio
    Let's talk "not cool." That would be me -- I have nine on the list from 51 - 200.
  • thomnottomthomnottom
    50. Deerhunter - Microcastle
    49. Antony & the Johnsons - I Am a Bird Now
    48. The Hold Steady - Separation Sunday
    47. Joanna Newsom - The Milk-Eyed Mender
    46. The Shins - Chutes Too Narrow
    45. Fugazi - The Argument
    44. D'Angelo - Voodoo
    43. Luomo - Vocalcity
    42. Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest
    41. Burial - Untrue
    40. The National - Alligator
    39. Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun
    38. Phoenix - It's Never Been Like That
    37. Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out
    36. The Streets - Original Pirate Material
    35. Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
    34. Radiohead - Amnesiac
    33. Basement Jaxx - Rooty
    32. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
    31. TV on the Radio - Return to Cookie Mountain
    30. Boards of Canada - Geogaddi
    29. Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago
    28. Kanye West - The College Dropout
    27. Animal Collective - Sung Tongs
    26. Fennesz - Endless Summer
    25. Madvillian - Madvilliany
    24. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever to Tell
    23. Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It in People
    22. M.I.A. - Kala
    21. Radiohead - In Rainbows
    20. Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights
    19. Spoon - Kill the Moonlight
    18. Kanye West - Late Registration
    17. LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
    16. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
    15. The Knife - Silent Shout
    14. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavillion
    13. OutKast - Stankonia
    12. The White Stripes - White Blood Cells
    11. Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
    10. The Avalanches - Since I Left You
    09. Panda Bear - Person Pitch
    08. Sigur R
  • thomnottomthomnottom
    Honestly I can't get that worked up about any list. But they're always a good start for discussing things. At first this list didn't bug me at all, but if you tell me that Kanye West has 3 albums better than St. Vincent's Marry Me I'll tell you you're crazy. Actually if you tell me there were 100 albums this decade better than Marry Me I'll call you crazy :P

    Yeah, I missed the Yo La Tengo on the list, but no Kick Your Ass? 2 albums and a collaboration from M.I.A. but no debut from Santogold? Daft Punk in the top 3?

    But I will give them credit for putting This Is It, Vampire Weekend, Silent Alarm and the Arctic Monkeys debut up decently inspite of the backlash those albums received.
  • Bad ThoughtsBad Thoughts
    Like many lists, the top selections are somewhat predictable (if controversial), the bottom of the list is more instructive (in terms of finding the new and unfamiliar), and that it reveals the biases of the editors (long on hipster disco, low on alt-country).
  • Daniel, Esq.Daniel, Esq.
    if you tell me that Kanye West has 3 albums better than St. Vincent's Marry Me I'll tell you you're crazy.

    Uhhhhh . . . . . .

    I must be crazy.
  • Daniel, Esq.Daniel, Esq.
    I like the P2K list a lot, BTW. Very well-written blurbs (for the most part). The Lala tie-in is fantastic, obv.
  • jonahpwlljonahpwll
    Elliot Smith "Figure 8" should be way higher on the list.
    Missing from it:
    Calexico - "Feast of Wire" should be in the top ten.
    Richmond Fontaine - "Post to Wire"
    Radar Bros. - "Fallen Leaf Pages"
    Odiorne - "Heavy Wish"
    Spiritualized - "Songs in A&E"
    Lambchop - "Damaged"
    Does Tom Waits massive three cd release meet the qualifications for this list?
    I also assume that jazz albums aren't considered for the list.
    The fact that some of these bands had more than one slot on the list says more about the love affairs of the Pitchfork staff than it does about who deserves to be on it.
  • NankerPNankerP
    Well I have 7 of the 200. lol.
  • mommiomommio
    Three more in the top 50, so that makes 12 for me.
  • Daniel, Esq.Daniel, Esq.
    I think I have maybe 70 of the Top 200. I wish Feast of Wine made the list, too. In fact, I wish Cole's Corner and Wilderness's debut disc made the list. But it's still a terrific list.

    Based on it, I downloaded The Boredoms' disc from Lala. And it is fantastic. Almost falling-apart-at-the-seams with the drumming and explosions of noise, but still retaining a melodic structure with riffs and hooks.
  • martynamartyna
    oh dear... I have 6 of the 200. Funny thing is, 5 of those are some of the most disappointing albums I own.
    guess I'm in the 'not even remotely cool' category.....
  • frogkopffrogkopf
    edited October 2009
    I think I'm missing about 13-14 out of the whole list (after buying about 20 from the Lala sale)- mainly the major label Rap/R&B stuff.

    I'll have to say I haven't closely listened to a lot of the stuff outside of the top 50 or so. I'll get to it though.

    If I were to make my own top 25 of the decade (only Pop/Rock/indie/R&B/Rap. etc.). maybe half of them are on the list here.
  • Daniel, Esq.Daniel, Esq.
    I'll have to say I haven't closely listened to a lot of the stuff outside of the top 50 or so. I'll get to it though.

    A lot of great stuff between Nos. 200 -- 51.
  • amclark2amclark2
    on a quick count i'm at about 60. i'd definitely feel cooler if that were a lower number. because hip isn't all that cool in my book, and pitchfork is mostly just hip.
    mainly the major label Rap/R&B stuff

    i'd say a big chunk of the stuff that i don't have but am interested falls into that category - I just got the D'Angelo disk and really liked it on my first spin.
    Based on it, I downloaded The Boredoms' disc from Lala. And it is fantastic. Almost falling-apart-at-the-seams with the drumming and explosions of noise, but still retaining a melodic structure with riffs and hooks.

    i just got that one too and am really loving it.
  • Bad ThoughtsBad Thoughts
    I've limited myself to only three new dls from the list: Tyranny of Distance, Sound of Silver, and Change. I end up having about 10% of the albums on the list. But it's telling that my tastes have changed over the last two years: a few weeks ago I sold of my copy of Kid A, feeling that it wasn't offering me anything.
  • cafreemacafreema
    I only have 19 of the 200. Seems like a good number to me, as I enjoy reading Pitchfork but don't want to identify with them too much.

    Craig
  • Daniel, Esq.Daniel, Esq.
    Yeah, but there's a lot of great music on P4K's list.
  • Daniel, Esq.Daniel, Esq.
    Plus the list got me inspired to listen to a bunch of stuff I had shelved for a long time. The Exploding Heart's amazing Guitar Romantic is a good example of this. What a ball of energy that album is, and what a great throwback rock record. So sad they're no more.
  • frogkopffrogkopf
    I only have 19 of the 200. Seems like a good number to me, as I enjoy reading Pitchfork but don't want to identify with them too much.

    Craig


    Like Raymond23 and Wanderer, you're such a contrary bastard! Damn you Minnesotans!
  • thomnottomthomnottom
    @Daniel - At least you admit that you're crazy :P Kanye's an easy target to pick on, because even the U.S. President thinks he's a jackass.

    I have about 80 of the discs (before the Lala sale), also have tracks from a few more and have really wanted to pick up a few others. The fact that I already had 17 of the top 25 is probably why I'm a little more contrary about those (seriously, The Avalanches at #10?). I'm happy that I finally got a hold of Discovery, but if I hadn't listened to music in 10 years and someone told me that it was the 3rd best album this decade I would probably just skip everything. Some great songs with a lot of meandering filler.

    Also, now that I've finally caved in and started giving Radiohead a listen again the critical acclaim is really sounding hollow. In Rainbows was a decent record, but nothing spectacular. After listening to previews $1.99 is too much for Amnesiac. Today Kid A gets a spin - will I be completely disgusted? Stay tuned...
  • Daniel, Esq.Daniel, Esq.
    Kanye is a jackass. He's also a brilliant pop artist. Among a handful who could be the best of the decade.
  • cafreemacafreema
    froggy - Aren't you glad you live here!?! Seriously though, it's not really being contrary as there are a bunch of albums on that list I'd like to have, but I don't. I just think Pitchfork is often a little too full of themselves and it turns me off so I don't really want to be identified with them. I still read it and Stereogum daily though.

    Thom - Knowing how in sync we often are, you should like Kid A as I LOVE that album. I like Amnesiac, but Kid A is head and shoulders above. "The National Anthem" and "Idioteque" are fantastic and "Optimistic" would likely make my top five all time.

    Craig
  • frogkopffrogkopf
    I do like the cities - except for the weather that is about to come and stay for 6 months.

    As far as Pitchfork goes, I think it's a case of separating the message from the messenger. That and the fact with their revolving cast of reviewers means they can be very hit and miss. That said, I do check them about once a week and make note of albums that they give the mid 7s or higher. They are maybe one of 5-6 sources of info for me, and then I let my ears decide. They've definitely given their share of 6s to really good albums and given 8.5 or higher the a fair amount of good but not great ones. I will say as far as pointing me to albums I might not have otherwise noticed, they have probably done so more in the last 10 years than any other single source, unless the various recs on the eMu boards count.

    Besides, Pitchfork started in Minneapolis, so I need to at least tip my hat to a fellow homeboy.
  • cowruncowrun
    I only have 4 of these:

    134. Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf
    119. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
    87. Kanye West - Graduation (Impulse purchase after listening to "Stronger")
    07. The Strokes - Is This It

    Does that make me weird? Like I need any help there :)

    I figured The White Stripes' Icky Thump would be on here.

    cowrun
  • qwynwynqwynwyn
    Yay for lists! I already have quite a few albums on this list, so I might do some guided listening after I finish my Fela kick. BTW, I think Kanye's music is great...
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