I had not seen the Amazon announcement. When it came out it was unlimited, so I tested that boundary and uploaded 60K or so, but the software was so frustratingly bad I stopped using it. I think all my AmieStreet Music was backed up there....
Edit: I guess I made it to 97387 on Amazon:
And yes, Tzadik has only 3 John Zorn albums (out of a zillion), all the Filmworks are missing (they do appear in My Music).
I put a bunch of stuff on Amazon although I hadn’t added anything new in some time. I’ll have to figure out what’s still there, but I think everything I put there was backed up somewhere else.
As I noted on the emusic reddit forum, you know it's bad when they design a new icon and page just to denote all the music that is being deleted from the catalogue. (Though they should have shown an empty album sleeve for albums that don't exist. :-) )
Tzadik (except for some rather old back catalogue) indeed went away, as did a significant number of pop indie labels. (In fact, by my count, 25 of the 100 "best of 2017" albums, as chosen by eMu editors - all of which are still advertised on the eMusic home page - have now disappeared from the site in the first four weeks of 2018. Not a good sign...
This disappearing music phenomenon is getting to be a concern, and I'm usually willing to let it go if there is at least something I can find every month that feels new. I just walked through my wish lists, and even recent picks are coming up desaparecido. I didn't realize you had to click through from the album cover image to find out if the album was really there or not.
What is left of Tzadik seems totally arbitary. The only good thing about this total fuck up is that a) I bought the shit out of the label in the last few months, and b) with only 40+ albums left it has highlighted stuff that I'd like that was lost in the woods before. I refresh in the next couple of days; interesting to see what happens and I sorta thought it was too good to be true.
Same here in Brexitville, so much for the SFL 4 or 5 I saved the other day. Perhaps the label will re-appear as part of the Easter "10 Million new additions to Emusic" promotion?
It is now three weeks plus since I left eMusic, so far I am not missing the frustrating trawl through to find new albums I'd really like, rather than prepared to give it a try. We are Amazon Prime members so I am using that a fair bit at home now. I'm also catching up, especially when driving, with the many albums I have downloaded over the years and never really played much at all.
Same for me Greg, its been a few months now but finding music is not been too much of a problem. I am lucky that I am a member of City of London libraries which includes the Barbican which is one of the biggest in London so finding interesting music is not a problem. Spotify is good for hearing new albums so a wish list is up for when I am in town to buy the albums. Judging by the comments on the Reditt page it seems E Music is looking like it could be on its last legs. It was great while it lasted but it seems that the labels are not happy and pulling out, once that happens it means less cash flow and that signals the end. I was there when the video game company I worked for went under due to the same problems. Its a great shame as a model for finding new and independent music it was great, I am sure that there is someone looking at it and thinking about another way of doing it.
I've just read through recent Reddit pages - sounds like a permanent reduction of labels, along with the booster sales at greater than usual reductions. The offer I have to go back is very good, but I am not encouraged at the moment
It is now three weeks plus since I left eMusic, so far I am not missing the frustrating trawl through to find new albums I'd really like, rather than prepared to give it a try. We are Amazon Prime members so I am using that a fair bit at home now. I'm also catching up, especially when driving, with the many albums I have downloaded over the years and never really played much at all.
Greg, do you mind me asking (as a fellow Prime Loyal Amazon True Believer - wink) is the Amazon bit rate on mp3's still 256kb variable? That (and "ahem" ethics) is what pushes me to Bandcamp and FLAC even if the range of music is far more limited. Cheers djh
In response to a Twitter query about missing labels: "You're correct. More content has been removed. And we'll have a statement shortly explaining in more detail. Sorry for the delay."
djh - yes generally. I tend to use Prime to listen to something once or twice. If I want better quality and want to play more I will buy. My current source to buy is either CD or using 7 Digital Flac downloads. We originally signed up for Prime a couple of years ago to save postage on orders for books, toys for grandchildren etc, as living outside London or Birmingham (we are equidistant to those two) we found finding such things in shops within an 80 mile journey quite difficult, even in MK.
djh - yes generally. I tend to use Prime to listen to something once or twice. If I want better quality and want to play more I will buy. My current source to buy is either CD or using 7 Digital Flac downloads. We originally signed up for Prime a couple of years ago to save postage on orders for books, toys for grandchildren etc, as living outside London or Birmingham (we are equidistant to those two) we found finding such things in shops within an 80 mile journey quite difficult, even in MK.
MK eh? Figures, not many Reds Oop North. Sorry for your loss, but it'll keep my moody Spurs mates happy for five minutes. i signed up with 7 Digital ages ago but I don't think I've ever bought from them which is a bit peculiar for me.
Boy, I wonder if it's possible that the label drops might be related to the recent half-price sale? All of those albums priced at 7 or 9 bucks that wound up being sold for 3.5 or 4.5 bucks (at already-discounted eMu dollars, of course). I seem to recall from discussions on the old messboard that album discounts and free trials were considered "promos" that were eaten by the labels.
I wondered the same thing. They have leaned so hard on the half price sales lately that I have had to start skipping them to slow the deluge into my music collection and maintain meaningful listening habits. I can imagine labels being OK with a promo a couple of times a year, but when it gets so regular folk can use it as a regular buying strategy I can’t imagine it does much for their bottom line.
Also, I would guess that if sales are intermittent they spread somewhat randomly across labels, but when they are so regular it may be more likely that people start cleaning out particular labels and it gets more noticeable.
Truthfully, a lot of what I'm downloading from eMu lately I wouldn't buy unless it was half-price. I find a few releases a month that I would consider for full price but not many. If it weren't for things I become aware of from the record review section of Vintage Guitar magazine (good source, BTW) which eMu generally has a couple at least I might bag it all together.
I see that and I get a Pavlovian twitch, I've only 13 albums in my SFL but it could so easily be more despite all the recent lost labels. I've said it before but even now I can still find plenty to buy; but would the albums still be available a few days after I've got the credit and put them in the SFL? - There's the rub!
The answer is of course to download immediately you get the extra credit, but that takes time. I'm glad I've left it all behind me. I was, like some above, downloading things because they were available at an amazingly bargain price but generally not albums I'd necessarily buy in other circumstances. I have an email which says I can rejoin on my old plan - we shall see one day, maybe...
Well I've a day off work while the plumber is here and so time on my hands - guess what I did... And I've used half the biggest deal already... No such thing as too much music, or so they tell me.
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Relevant to the above discussion, Amazon Music Cloud storage is going away. (Grandfathered for the next year; Amazon purchases not affected)
Edit: I guess I made it to 97387 on Amazon:
And yes, Tzadik has only 3 John Zorn albums (out of a zillion), all the Filmworks are missing (they do appear in My Music).
There's only 46 albums left in Europe.
- Some of the albums still displays in my wishlist but . . .
In my book this is . . . . Hmmm . . . . not exactly true.Sorry, That Album Does Not Exist
I hope the 400 and something albums will return, but I have my doubts.
Tzadik (except for some rather old back catalogue) indeed went away, as did a significant number of pop indie labels. (In fact, by my count, 25 of the 100 "best of 2017" albums, as chosen by eMu editors - all of which are still advertised on the eMusic home page - have now disappeared from the site in the first four weeks of 2018. Not a good sign...
Scheisse ! ! !
Judging by the comments on the Reditt page it seems E Music is looking like it could be on its last legs. It was great while it lasted but it seems that the labels are not happy and pulling out, once that happens it means less cash flow and that signals the end. I was there when the video game company I worked for went under due to the same problems.
Its a great shame as a model for finding new and independent music it was great, I am sure that there is someone looking at it and thinking about another way of doing it.
djh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDnS4pkmzis
- Do not dispair, we still have Dolly Records
i signed up with 7 Digital ages ago but I don't think I've ever bought from them which is a bit peculiar for me.
Also, I would guess that if sales are intermittent they spread somewhat randomly across labels, but when they are so regular it may be more likely that people start cleaning out particular labels and it gets more noticeable.
Amen BigD-Bluez!
I see that and I get a Pavlovian twitch, I've only 13 albums in my SFL but it could so easily be more despite all the recent lost labels. I've said it before but even now I can still find plenty to buy; but would the albums still be available a few days after I've got the credit and put them in the SFL? - There's the rub!