Bill Frisell et all - "Weird Nightmare - Meditations on Mingus"
It's difficult to accurately recall the timeline, but I'm almost certain the Hal Wilner-Bill Frisell recording was my introduction to Charles Mingus (and a ton of modern jazz musicians). I heard Weird Nightmare back in November 1992 back in Colorado, then a few months later purchased a whole bunch of jazz when I was back in Chicago (including some Mingus), and pretty much never looked back from my jazz addiction.
"Three or Four Shades of Blues" is arguably my favorite Mingus recording. Delirious fun version of Better Get Hit In Your Soul (modded title for this recording) and the most gorgeous rendition of "Goodbye Porkpie Hat."
@jonahpwll Thanks for the reminder about Three or Four Shades I really like late period Mingus but that one tends to get overlooked.
!!! And one of the things I'd forgotten, Larry Coryell's guitar is all over the first four tracks. It sounds so suprising to hear electric guitar on a Mingus album.
I think I'm about to go on a Red Garland binge. I feel like this happens only in winter weather every few years.
I keep revisiting the music of Sonny Rollins and it still doesn't do anything for me. Occasionally I'll find something that's okay to my ears (the Alfie soundtrack comes to mind), but at this point I'm feeling like if I never listen to another Rollins recording, I'm none the worse.
Hi, just wanted to mention that if we’re thinking of moving out of this thread to a new one for ‘23, then maybe we should begin thinking about it now? I don’t know if we have to necessarily still have it as an homage to our dear late friend - we, of course can…and somehow work in the number “23” that a lot of these experimental cult bands of the 80s were so fascinated with … or, just come up with something of our own related to music (23 Skidoo?). Anyway, just wanted to put that out there…
Hope you all had a warm and safe holiday. Just the wife and I and the three kitties and some “Iggy Confidential” that was just great for us today! Finished doing a couple of radio shows that jump into some memorable albums from this last year (December 28 & Jan. 4 [with a half-hour homage to John McLaughlin on his 81st b-day]).
1 THE SKELETON AND THE ROUNDABOUT (mono single mix) – The Idle Race 2 JENNY ARTICHOKE – Kaleidoscope 3 CUDDLY TOY – Fruit Machine 4 PHENOMENAL CAT – The Kinks 5 LITTLE LESLEY – The Alan Bown! 6 EMILY SMALL (THE HUGE WORLD THEREOF) – The Picadilly Line 7 MAN IN THE TEAPOT – Fire 8 MR LIGHT – John Carter and Mickey Keen 9 THE DUBIOUS CIRCUS COMPANY – Clifford T. Ward 10 ICE CREAM MAN (alternative version) – Kidrock 11 LOLLIPOP MINDS – Wimple Winch 12 PETER’S BIRTHDAY (BLACK AND WHITE RAINBOWS) – World Of Oz 13 HA! HA! SAID THE CLOWN – Tony Hazzard 14 SAD SIMON LIVES AGAIN – Tim Andrews 15 UNCLE JOE, THE ICE CREAM MAN – The Mindbenders 16 PHOEBE’S FLOWER SHOP – The Cortinas 17 COPLINGTON – Persimmon’s Peculiar Shades 18 COLOUR SERGEANT LILLYWHITE – West Coast Consortium 19 OUR FAIRY TALE – The Herd 20 TEENAGE LOVE SONG – Hetherington 21 EBANEEZER BEAVER (demo version) – The Mirage 22 FAIRY TALE (demo version) – The Next Collection 23 BROTHER JACK – Barry Wigley 24 TRAFALGAR SQUARE – The Good Time Losers 25 SADIE AND HER MAGIC MR. GALAHAD – The New Generation 26 MARJORY DAW – Morning Glory 27 THE LAST PERFORMANCE OF THE ROYAL REGIMENTAL VERY VICTORIOUS AND VALIANT BAND – The Syn 28 RAINBOW ROCKING CHAIR – Majority One 29 EXCERPT FROM “A TEENAGE OPERA” – Keith West
DISC TWO:
1 LAVENDER POPCORN – Scrugg 2 KNOCKING NAILS INTO MY HOUSE – Ambrose Slade 3 MR JOB – Jigsaw 4 UNCLE ARTHUR – David Bowie 5 THE BITTER THOUGHTS OF LITTLE JANE – Timon 6 CELLOPHANE MARY JANE – Astronaut Alan and The Planets 7 MR KIPLING – Tuesday’s Children 8 IT’S THE BEST SEASIDE IN THE WORLD – Frabjoy and Runcible Spoon 9 AND NOW FOR A LITTLE TRAIN NUMBER – Kenny Everett 10 GLORIOUS HOUSE OF ARTHUR – Fairfield Parlour 11 LAUGHING BOY FROM NOWHERE – Simon Dupree and The Big Sound 12 AUNTIE MARY’S DRESS SHOP – Tomorrow 13 THE EQUESTRIAN STATUE – The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band 14 JAMES IN THE BASEMENT – Denis Couldry 15 TALES OF FLOSSIE FILLETT – Turquoise 16 MY BEST FRIEND – The Picadilly Line 17 HAPPINESS IS TOY-SHAPED – Harmony Grass 18 BIRMINGHAM BRASS BAND – The Bullring 19 WATCHMAKER – Persimmon’s Peculiar Shades 20 ROOM AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS – Timothy Blue 21 AFTER TEA – Spencer Davis Group 22 DREAM DREAM DREAM – Kidrock 23 LEMON PIE FAIR – Complex 24 UNCLE HENRY’S MAGIC GARDEN – David Matthews 25 BRIC-A-BRAC MAN – Bill Niles 26 WHAT’S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE* (full version) – Chas Mills and Mark Wirtz 27 EVERYBODY LOVES THE CLOWN – Nirvana 28 SHARKEY – Christopher 29 POOR JOHNNY – The Secrets 30 FAIRGROUND – Pure Gold 31 TOY SOLDIER – The Riot Squad
DISC THREE:
1 (HE’S OUR DEAR OLD) WEATHERMAN – Mark Wirtz 2 ZEBEDY ZAK – Cardboard Orchestra 3 FLORENCE – Tapestry 4 MR MOODY’S GARDEN – Gilbert O’Sullivan 5 MUTINY – The Alan Bown! 6 UPTIGHT BASIL – Magic Valley 7 BANG BANG – Kidrock 8 TOYMAKER – Wild Silk 9 LANTERNLIGHT – Peter and The Wolves 10 LOVE AND THE BIG BRASS BAND – Dave Christie 11 PICCOLO MAN – Friends 12 UWE AUS DUISBERG – The Hi-Fis 13 EINER KLEINER MISER MUSIK – Tony Rivers and The Castaways 14 THE HAPPY KING – Music Box 15 MRS DAISY – Tintern Abbey 16 MRS MURPHY’S BUDGERIGAR – Blossom Toes 17 ANNIE’S PLACE – Gene Latter 18 GLASSHOUSE GREEN, SPLINTER RED – John Pantry 19 HENRY EVERYDAY* – Timothy Blue 20 DEAR OLD MRS BELL – The Shadows 21 MR NICE GUY – Dragonmilk 22 MISTER WHITE’S WHITE FLYING MACHINE (album version) – Ayshea 23 MAGIC SHOES (demo) – Fire 24 KING OF THE CASTLE – Jason Crest 25 THROUGH MY TELESCOPE – Marty Wilde 26 TIME TO GO HOME – The Tots 27 THE SAD STORY OF SIMON AND HIS BUGLE* (correct version) – Mark Wirtz
@rostasi I don't know if there is anything we can make of it but in Morse Code, the telegraphers' code 23 means "break the line". Also, 23 is apparently a "happy number"!
Taking your cue of revisiting the 1980s, the music and art duo The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu (later known as The KLF and the K Foundation) named themselves after the fictional conspiratorial group "The Justified Ancients of Mummu" from the book “Illuminatus!”. The number 23, is a recurring theme in the duo's work. Perhaps most infamously, as the K Foundation, they burnt one million pounds on 23 August 1994 and subsequently agreed not to publicly discuss the burning for a period of 23 years. 23 years to the day after the burning, they returned to launch a novel and discuss why they had burnt the money!!!
So we could call call it "The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu".
Or, alternatively, with The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu abbreviation of their name to JAM, why not go back to my favourite musical period of the 60s and call it "Kick Out The Jams"! Particularly as JAM included a sample of MC5's song of that name in their first single "All You Need Is Love".
This would be a great title, bearing in mind the definition of “Kick Out The Jams" being to play rock music loudly and with a lot of energy or emotion. Sounds like us!
You mention, in your post, the hope for warm and safe holidays. It has certainly been warm here in Melbourne! 30 deg C on Christmas Day, 32 deg C today and 37 deg C tomorrow!
Well, I've also been thinking about this thread and as I am mostly stuck in the past now the only one that came to mind as I'm going through the alphabet once more was the Brothers Johnson's version of Shuggie Otis' Strawberry Letter 23. That, and it turns out I also have 23 Bob Dylan albums in my library not counting these with The Band. I don't suppose that I'll ever stop thinking about @Brighternow and how much he influenced my musical tastes, but it's time to move on. Bob Dylan / The Band Before The FloodThe Basement Tapes
@rostasi I don't know if there is anything we can make of it but in Morse Code, the telegraphers' code 23 means "break the line". Also, 23 is apparently a "happy number"!
Taking your cue of revisiting the 1980s, the music and art duo The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu (later known as The KLF and the K Foundation) named themselves after the fictional conspiratorial group "The Justified Ancients of Mummu" from the book “Illuminatus!”. The number 23, is a recurring theme in the duo's work. Perhaps most infamously, as the K Foundation, they burnt one million pounds on 23 August 1994 and subsequently agreed not to publicly discuss the burning for a period of 23 years. 23 years to the day after the burning, they returned to launch a novel and discuss why they had burnt the money!!!
So we could call call it "The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu".
Or, alternatively, with The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu abbreviation of their name to JAM, why not go back to my favourite musical period of the 60s and call it "Kick Out The Jams"! Particularly as JAM included a sample of MC5's song of that name in their first single "All You Need Is Love".
This would be a great title, bearing in mind the definition of “Kick Out The Jams" being to play rock music loudly and with a lot of energy or emotion. Sounds like us!
You mention, in your post, the hope for warm and safe holidays. It has certainly been warm here in Melbourne! 30 deg C on Christmas Day, 32 deg C today and 37 deg C tomorrow!
The format we’ve been using involves directly working the number into the title, so it would have to be something more like “the 23 Ancients of Mu Mu,” “Kick out 23 Jams” (etc.)
Carbon Based Lifeforms has an album called “Twentythree” - so “23 Carbon Based Lifeforms”
I have never heard the song, but the internet tells me Blink-182 have a song with the lyric “nobody likes you when you’re 23”
The internet also tells me that “On the cover of The Beatles' 1969 album Yellow Submarine the number 23 is displayed on the chest of one of the Blue Meanies.” So “23 Blue Meanies”.
I just remember that in the 80s, especially, there were a lot of these occult-like bands and people (Psychic TV, Current 93, practically anything that Genesis P-Orridge was involved in) who were wholly (holy?) enamored with the number “23” and you would see it crop up in liner notes, interviews and even titles. I remember shaking my head about this and doing some light research and there were always these people talking about the “magikal” properties of that number and so on - connecting it to archaic notions stemming from Enochian Magic and Kabbalah and so on.
23 seconds, in you I see a chance 23 magic, if you change the name of love
Your crazy heart, my crazy love, repent now How many times ? As long as you wish How many times ? The world will go around How many times ? As long as you want How many times ? The world will go around
He was a friend of mine, he was a son of a gun ... he was a son of god
I spent all yesterday trying to work 23 Skidoo into something punchy especially since on my first visit to NYC yeras ago I visited the Flatiron building probably under the influence of Robert Anton Wilson and his great Illuminatii jape.
Sounds like that version is getting traction, at least among the triumvirate :-). Let any who object speak now or forever etc. I’ll create the thread at the end of the week.
@rostasi we’ve been enjoying listening to Saturno 2000, which if memory serves I discovered because bandcamp told me you had bought it? If so, thanks, lots of fun.
You guys are giving me ideas for my Jan. 11 show: the “Seven Songs” and “Saturno 2000” records. Yes, that’s a good place to start when it comes to 23 Skidoo! … and, yes, I’m a fan of that “Saturno 2000” album too. Glad you had a chance to discover it. The two competing stories about the beginnings of rebajada are fun to read about, but I’m leaning towards the “broken record player” version because it sounds so much like a fantastical story. It makes me want to slow down cha-cha-cha, mambo, samba, etc LPs now to see if there’s another genre lurking deep in musical realms somewhere.
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then maybe we should begin thinking about it now?
I don’t know if we have to necessarily still have it as an homage to our dear late friend -
we, of course can…and somehow work in the number “23” that a lot of these experimental cult
bands of the 80s were so fascinated with …
or, just come up with something of our own related to music (23 Skidoo?).
Anyway, just wanted to put that out there…
Hope you all had a warm and safe holiday. Just the wife and I and the three kitties and
some “Iggy Confidential” that was just great for us today! Finished doing a couple of radio shows
that jump into some memorable albums from this last year (December 28 & Jan. 4 [with a half-hour
homage to John McLaughlin on his 81st b-day]).
DISC ONE:
1 THE SKELETON AND THE ROUNDABOUT (mono single mix) – The Idle Race
2 JENNY ARTICHOKE – Kaleidoscope
3 CUDDLY TOY – Fruit Machine
4 PHENOMENAL CAT – The Kinks
5 LITTLE LESLEY – The Alan Bown!
6 EMILY SMALL (THE HUGE WORLD THEREOF) – The Picadilly Line
7 MAN IN THE TEAPOT – Fire
8 MR LIGHT – John Carter and Mickey Keen
9 THE DUBIOUS CIRCUS COMPANY – Clifford T. Ward
10 ICE CREAM MAN (alternative version) – Kidrock
11 LOLLIPOP MINDS – Wimple Winch
12 PETER’S BIRTHDAY (BLACK AND WHITE RAINBOWS) – World Of Oz
13 HA! HA! SAID THE CLOWN – Tony Hazzard
14 SAD SIMON LIVES AGAIN – Tim Andrews
15 UNCLE JOE, THE ICE CREAM MAN – The Mindbenders
16 PHOEBE’S FLOWER SHOP – The Cortinas
17 COPLINGTON – Persimmon’s Peculiar Shades
18 COLOUR SERGEANT LILLYWHITE – West Coast Consortium
19 OUR FAIRY TALE – The Herd
20 TEENAGE LOVE SONG – Hetherington
21 EBANEEZER BEAVER (demo version) – The Mirage
22 FAIRY TALE (demo version) – The Next Collection
23 BROTHER JACK – Barry Wigley
24 TRAFALGAR SQUARE – The Good Time Losers
25 SADIE AND HER MAGIC MR. GALAHAD – The New Generation
26 MARJORY DAW – Morning Glory
27 THE LAST PERFORMANCE OF THE ROYAL REGIMENTAL VERY VICTORIOUS AND VALIANT BAND – The Syn
28 RAINBOW ROCKING CHAIR – Majority One
29 EXCERPT FROM “A TEENAGE OPERA” – Keith West
DISC TWO:
1 LAVENDER POPCORN – Scrugg
2 KNOCKING NAILS INTO MY HOUSE – Ambrose Slade
3 MR JOB – Jigsaw
4 UNCLE ARTHUR – David Bowie
5 THE BITTER THOUGHTS OF LITTLE JANE – Timon
6 CELLOPHANE MARY JANE – Astronaut Alan and The Planets
7 MR KIPLING – Tuesday’s Children
8 IT’S THE BEST SEASIDE IN THE WORLD – Frabjoy and Runcible Spoon
9 AND NOW FOR A LITTLE TRAIN NUMBER – Kenny Everett
10 GLORIOUS HOUSE OF ARTHUR – Fairfield Parlour
11 LAUGHING BOY FROM NOWHERE – Simon Dupree and The Big Sound
12 AUNTIE MARY’S DRESS SHOP – Tomorrow
13 THE EQUESTRIAN STATUE – The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band
14 JAMES IN THE BASEMENT – Denis Couldry
15 TALES OF FLOSSIE FILLETT – Turquoise
16 MY BEST FRIEND – The Picadilly Line
17 HAPPINESS IS TOY-SHAPED – Harmony Grass
18 BIRMINGHAM BRASS BAND – The Bullring
19 WATCHMAKER – Persimmon’s Peculiar Shades
20 ROOM AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS – Timothy Blue
21 AFTER TEA – Spencer Davis Group
22 DREAM DREAM DREAM – Kidrock
23 LEMON PIE FAIR – Complex
24 UNCLE HENRY’S MAGIC GARDEN – David Matthews
25 BRIC-A-BRAC MAN – Bill Niles
26 WHAT’S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE* (full version) – Chas Mills and Mark Wirtz
27 EVERYBODY LOVES THE CLOWN – Nirvana
28 SHARKEY – Christopher
29 POOR JOHNNY – The Secrets
30 FAIRGROUND – Pure Gold
31 TOY SOLDIER – The Riot Squad
DISC THREE:
1 (HE’S OUR DEAR OLD) WEATHERMAN – Mark Wirtz
2 ZEBEDY ZAK – Cardboard Orchestra
3 FLORENCE – Tapestry
4 MR MOODY’S GARDEN – Gilbert O’Sullivan
5 MUTINY – The Alan Bown!
6 UPTIGHT BASIL – Magic Valley
7 BANG BANG – Kidrock
8 TOYMAKER – Wild Silk
9 LANTERNLIGHT – Peter and The Wolves
10 LOVE AND THE BIG BRASS BAND – Dave Christie
11 PICCOLO MAN – Friends
12 UWE AUS DUISBERG – The Hi-Fis
13 EINER KLEINER MISER MUSIK – Tony Rivers and The Castaways
14 THE HAPPY KING – Music Box
15 MRS DAISY – Tintern Abbey
16 MRS MURPHY’S BUDGERIGAR – Blossom Toes
17 ANNIE’S PLACE – Gene Latter
18 GLASSHOUSE GREEN, SPLINTER RED – John Pantry
19 HENRY EVERYDAY* – Timothy Blue
20 DEAR OLD MRS BELL – The Shadows
21 MR NICE GUY – Dragonmilk
22 MISTER WHITE’S WHITE FLYING MACHINE (album version) – Ayshea
23 MAGIC SHOES (demo) – Fire
24 KING OF THE CASTLE – Jason Crest
25 THROUGH MY TELESCOPE – Marty Wilde
26 TIME TO GO HOME – The Tots
27 THE SAD STORY OF SIMON AND HIS BUGLE* (correct version) – Mark Wirtz
Taking your cue of revisiting the 1980s, the music and art duo The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu (later known as The KLF and the K Foundation) named themselves after the fictional conspiratorial group "The Justified Ancients of Mummu" from the book “Illuminatus!”. The number 23, is a recurring theme in the duo's work. Perhaps most infamously, as the K Foundation, they burnt one million pounds on 23 August 1994 and subsequently agreed not to publicly discuss the burning for a period of 23 years. 23 years to the day after the burning, they returned to launch a novel and discuss why they had burnt the money!!!
So we could call call it "The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu".
Or, alternatively, with The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu abbreviation of their name to JAM, why not go back to my favourite musical period of the 60s and call it "Kick Out The Jams"! Particularly as JAM included a sample of MC5's song of that name in their first single "All You Need Is Love".
This would be a great title, bearing in mind the definition of “Kick Out The Jams" being to play rock music loudly and with a lot of energy or emotion. Sounds like us!
You mention, in your post, the hope for warm and safe holidays. It has certainly been warm here in Melbourne! 30 deg C on Christmas Day, 32 deg C today and 37 deg C tomorrow!
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Before The Flood The Basement Tapes
Carbon Based Lifeforms has an album called “Twentythree” - so “23 Carbon Based Lifeforms”
I have never heard the song, but the internet tells me Blink-182 have a song with the lyric “nobody likes you when you’re 23”
The internet also tells me that “On the cover of The Beatles' 1969 album Yellow Submarine the number 23 is displayed on the chest of one of the Blue Meanies.” So “23 Blue Meanies”.
Derived from the 2007 song and album "23" by Blonde Redhead.
An outstanding Shoegaze, Dream Pop album which is somewhat reminiscent of My Bloody Valentine and Asobi Seksu.
https://www.allmusic.com/album/23-mw0000479293
"23
23 seconds, all things we love will die
23 magic, if you can change your life
Your tainted heart, my tainted love, repent now
How many times ?
As long as you live, how many times ?
The world will go around
He was a friend of mine, he was a son of god ... he was a son of a gun
23 seconds, in you I see a chance
23 magic, if you change the name of love
Your crazy heart, my crazy love, repent now
How many times ? As long as you wish
How many times ? The world will go around
How many times ? As long as you want
How many times ? The world will go around
He was a friend of mine, he was a son of a gun ... he was a son of god
23"
> "What Are You Listening to (23) Skidoo?"
As good or better than what I was wrestling with.
And if we were to choose it, should this album by 23 Skidoo be our first listen of the New Year!?
Let any who object speak now or forever etc. I’ll create the thread at the end of the week.
@rostasi we’ve been enjoying listening to Saturno 2000, which if memory serves I discovered because bandcamp told me you had bought it? If so, thanks, lots of fun.
Yes, that’s a good place to start when it comes to 23 Skidoo!
… and, yes, I’m a fan of that “Saturno 2000” album too. Glad you had a chance to discover it.
The two competing stories about the beginnings of rebajada are fun to read about,
but I’m leaning towards the “broken record player” version because it sounds so much like a fantastical story.
It makes me want to slow down cha-cha-cha, mambo, samba, etc LPs now to see if there’s another genre lurking deep in musical realms somewhere.
From the Concrete Islands best of - Thanks Doofy