tee hee. Yes that was a funny post from CBCD....remember Starkers The Jazz Aficionado? That guy only stuck aroud for one "debate".
I think I'll use that trick, too. And possibly reply only with actual Comic Book Guy quotes, such as :
I will tell you in exactly seven minutes.
Your emotion is out of place here, son.
I dispense the insults, rather than absorb them.
Well, mommio, I'm glad you were around when the doctors were in.
I have been trying to bite my toungue because I don't want to get into it with that dolt. It's good to let off some bitter here about it.
I've called him on his bullshit way too often and he's just started ignoring me (I'm indieb0i). Every time he would talk about all of the music that's disappeared over the last 2 years I would point out specific examples of labels that arrived in the last year. He could never come back with anything more than "I guess you're a jazz fan", etc.
The funny thing is how almost everything he says now is eerily similar to things he complained about before the big change...
hey thom - good to see you here. if nothing else, he is polarizing. who could ever imagine a plant could be such a lightning rod? odd to see weirdre pop in...that's deirdre of "dear deidre" thread history. she has never appeared before and likes to stay behind the scenes.
if bklynd shows up, tell him wanderer is pakman. snicker.
Yes, thom, I've noticed your comments. There really isn't any point, but he just pushed my buttons with that post. I don't like to post that kind of comment -- I really was bad, but it was fun. Now I just have to start ignoring him again.
Well crap, now I'll have to read it, if indieThom & mommio posted in it. I HAD been ignoring it. What a hypocrite. He insults folks all the time. Which is what he was whining about when he started posting a lot. Aw go on, Nereffid, walk in on them.
What sick news to see upon waking up - long tracks cost 12 credits. I just knew more trickery was going to happen.
No, don't push Nereffid to join in. Let him keep his sanity. I checked out at work today (the boss is away and no one is calling me) so it's cool if I poke the bears. I'll open up some scotch when I get home and all will be forgotten.
Well, some things will still keep me up: http://xkcd.com/386/
See the reason I don't believe he's a plant is that no company (even one making mistake after mistake like eMusic) would have a plant repeatedly insult the other posters. They would have him either not engage or actually answer the counterarguments raised.
he needs to kick out every nereffid + ML who bring deep intellectual content + the creative types along the "do not feed the trolls" thread...which leaves people just talking about music (i think tim or nereffid made that point in that same post)
here's why he is assigned to do that: e-music setting low price argued they were part of the solution to declining cd sales by bringing back folks who have abandoned cd purchases (late 90's thru today) - and they were quite successful in getting folks like me (i think i went from 97 - 03 without a cd purchase). emu's argument was that they were bringing purchasers back to the table. well, it's now "everyone who lived thru the depression is dead" in a sense. they don't have anymore of those folks to convert - they've completely run thru that cycle. the avids - the folks who truly want to explore are a dead population to them...if they want to grow, they need to do something else and that something else is the great unwashed...folks who will be very happy buying 3 cd's a month...that's not avid consumption + they don't want it...they don't want it so bad they designed their plans to notch out at exceedingly low levels.
they want the great unwashed so bad they'll make bitesized plans that are perfect for co-marketing programs - the kind that fit under bottlecaps or can be passed out at the mall.
they do not want us around. nereffid's too smart for the new plan. they want you to shop at the major's prices - not an indie/explore model. they don't want you to love + share your love of music...that makes people want more...when they should be buying just 3 cd's a month.
Personally I thought, "Nope, I pretty much think that he's a condescending snot who's real happy now that the cool kids are on a different bus." was the best response.
He's way too confrontational to be a plant - then again, eMu has demonstrated so much incompetence, why would anyone expect them to hire a qualified plant?
I'm also just a tad happy about the fact that it took an hour for someone to respond to his "please be my friend and compare download numbers" thread while 2 people gave me suggestions for pantless, three wolf moon music within 20 minutes...
What is about that guy that turns so many of us off? Others argue, contradict others' posts, flame, but no one bothers me like this one who tries to be so rational and goody-goody. I can't quite put my finger on what it is that makes him different.
mommio, you hit it with this comment: "tries to be so rational and goody-goody". He's incredibly hypocritical and simply avoids using certain words so that he can claim he's not insulting people. This way he gets to play the victim - which is about as annoying as you can get. Recently he was using the Taylor Swift thread to demonstrate the attitudes eMu regulars had. Of course he didn't link to the thread, because then people would have realized that all of the horrid responses he referred to amounted to maybe 1 or 2 replies in the thread with over 30.
In other words, he looks for reasons to be "offended".
Some parts of the Internet would call him a "concern troll." Someone who levels criticism while pretending to be helpful. Sort of like when the mother-in-law helps out in the kitchen to make sure the meal isn't ruined.
i saw him at the university of chicago on the emu pizza tour. he was pitching blue note back then and led one topic with "we all have our guilty pleasures"...then named a few like peter gabriel.
this is the third reference i've heard wanderer use that pakman used in his segment of engaging the bigs that nite. it's him without a doubt.
I can't believe that I'm the one that has to point this out...
Do you really wonder why that guy gets up everybody's nose??? It's so obvious once you make the connection.
Of course he's a plant. And yes, his mission is to take over the boards and stir up the "old timers" so much that they all get pissed off and either stop posting or (preferably) leave eMusic altogether. So if you were eMusic, who would you hire to do just that? Who???
Who else had the chops to pull it off? He didn't just get bored and leave - eMu paid him to go dark for a while until they could set him up with an old retired account to work from. Been a member for 4 or 5 years? My ass. You telling me that an opinionated pompous windbag like Wandererer had access to a public forum for over 4 years and couldn't think of a thing to say until this April? Go ahead - pull the other one. I dare ya.
He's incredibly hypocritical and simply avoids using certain words so that he can claim he's not insulting people.
This is exactly it - you said it better than I did.
"avoids using certain words"
This is the key. No profanity, and none of those words with bad connotations like retard, troll, or whatever. Well he did call me lazy, but see, that word by itself is not that objectionable; it was the context in which it was used, and the implied morals that go with it.
He reminds me of my first grade teacher telling me not only to not color outside the lines, but that I can't mix two colors either, I have to use the colors provided on their own. All the posts seem to have the tone of talking down to someone, just like Comic Book Guy with his masters' in fairy tales.
Well I read every fucking fairy tale book in my elementary school's library. They were all colors of the rainbow. The Green Book of Fairy Tales, The Red Book of Fairy Tales, The Purple Book of Fairy Talesand so on....this guy is a damn newsclip about bad news, and not entertaining, at all.
Well I finally replied to that pompous jerk and he did not apologize, he just regretted.
Then he made some comment about "these people" which is exactly what we old-timers would say about "these people who sign up without knowing" what emusic is about.
Oh, whatever.
It won't matter next year, I suppose. But I am very riled up tonight.
Now I am editing like crazy to make him look worse. Sorry if my editing has had that effect on any of you (I don't think it has) but he seems unaware of it.
Which also makes me think he's
1)Clueless, which we all knew
2) Not pakman
3) To be pitied
Here is a typical insult from him, thrown back at him, that I wrote You are also unable to apologize like a decent, well-rounded adult.
Your eye goes to the decent, well rounded. Your heart feels the unable, and you 'get' the insult.
He's negative man.
I'm enjoying your rebuttals over there, Katrina. I still had some hope for him until the day he stepped into that thread and viciously insulted you for no reason. That was the worst I've seen on the board. He may try to claim that the "go hang yourself" or "you suck" comments are worse, but they show no forethought - just simple gut reaction. That is more easily forgiven or forgotten.
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I think I'll use that trick, too. And possibly reply only with actual Comic Book Guy quotes, such as :
I will tell you in exactly seven minutes.
Your emotion is out of place here, son.
I dispense the insults, rather than absorb them.
Well, mommio, I'm glad you were around when the doctors were in.
I have been trying to bite my toungue because I don't want to get into it with that dolt. It's good to let off some bitter here about it.
http://www.emusic.com/messageboard/viewTopic.html?topicId=186430
The funny thing is how almost everything he says now is eerily similar to things he complained about before the big change...
if bklynd shows up, tell him wanderer is pakman. snicker.
clink
That would make him a tree, eh?
What sick news to see upon waking up - long tracks cost 12 credits. I just knew more trickery was going to happen.
Well, some things will still keep me up: http://xkcd.com/386/
He's just a pompous jerk.
Craig
he needs to kick out every nereffid + ML who bring deep intellectual content + the creative types along the "do not feed the trolls" thread...which leaves people just talking about music (i think tim or nereffid made that point in that same post)
here's why he is assigned to do that: e-music setting low price argued they were part of the solution to declining cd sales by bringing back folks who have abandoned cd purchases (late 90's thru today) - and they were quite successful in getting folks like me (i think i went from 97 - 03 without a cd purchase). emu's argument was that they were bringing purchasers back to the table. well, it's now "everyone who lived thru the depression is dead" in a sense. they don't have anymore of those folks to convert - they've completely run thru that cycle. the avids - the folks who truly want to explore are a dead population to them...if they want to grow, they need to do something else and that something else is the great unwashed...folks who will be very happy buying 3 cd's a month...that's not avid consumption + they don't want it...they don't want it so bad they designed their plans to notch out at exceedingly low levels.
they want the great unwashed so bad they'll make bitesized plans that are perfect for co-marketing programs - the kind that fit under bottlecaps or can be passed out at the mall.
they do not want us around. nereffid's too smart for the new plan. they want you to shop at the major's prices - not an indie/explore model. they don't want you to love + share your love of music...that makes people want more...when they should be buying just 3 cd's a month.
am i wrong?
He's way too confrontational to be a plant - then again, eMu has demonstrated so much incompetence, why would anyone expect them to hire a qualified plant?
Craig
In other words, he looks for reasons to be "offended".
convinced.
i saw him at the university of chicago on the emu pizza tour. he was pitching blue note back then and led one topic with "we all have our guilty pleasures"...then named a few like peter gabriel.
this is the third reference i've heard wanderer use that pakman used in his segment of engaging the bigs that nite. it's him without a doubt.
Do you really wonder why that guy gets up everybody's nose??? It's so obvious once you make the connection.
Of course he's a plant. And yes, his mission is to take over the boards and stir up the "old timers" so much that they all get pissed off and either stop posting or (preferably) leave eMusic altogether. So if you were eMusic, who would you hire to do just that? Who???
Isn't it obvious???
Who else had the chops to pull it off? He didn't just get bored and leave - eMu paid him to go dark for a while until they could set him up with an old retired account to work from. Been a member for 4 or 5 years? My ass. You telling me that an opinionated pompous windbag like Wandererer had access to a public forum for over 4 years and couldn't think of a thing to say until this April? Go ahead - pull the other one. I dare ya.
This is exactly it - you said it better than I did.
"avoids using certain words"
This is the key. No profanity, and none of those words with bad connotations like retard, troll, or whatever. Well he did call me lazy, but see, that word by itself is not that objectionable; it was the context in which it was used, and the implied morals that go with it.
He reminds me of my first grade teacher telling me not only to not color outside the lines, but that I can't mix two colors either, I have to use the colors provided on their own. All the posts seem to have the tone of talking down to someone, just like Comic Book Guy with his masters' in fairy tales.
Well I read every fucking fairy tale book in my elementary school's library. They were all colors of the rainbow. The Green Book of Fairy Tales, The Red Book of Fairy Tales, The Purple Book of Fairy Talesand so on....this guy is a damn newsclip about bad news, and not entertaining, at all.
Then he made some comment about "these people" which is exactly what we old-timers would say about "these people who sign up without knowing" what emusic is about.
Oh, whatever.
It won't matter next year, I suppose. But I am very riled up tonight.
Which also makes me think he's
1)Clueless, which we all knew
2) Not pakman
3) To be pitied
Here is a typical insult from him, thrown back at him, that I wrote
You are also unable to apologize like a decent, well-rounded adult.
Your eye goes to the decent, well rounded. Your heart feels the unable, and you 'get' the insult.
He's negative man.
Your emotion is out of place here, son.
Beautifully timed!
Thank you, thank you ,very much.
I am going to whack that asshole every chance I get.